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 Dodge Wobble: How To Fix Your Own Case Of Dreaded Death Wobble

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As you have already found out, ” Dodge Wobble ” (also known as Ram Death Wobble ) is the horrible front end vibration that starts when one tire (usually the right tire first) hits a groove or bump in the pavement somewhere around 40~50mph.  Dodge Wobble is quite possibly the worst possible downside to having a coil-sprung front suspension on a vehicle with a track bar or panhard bar.  Among the vehicles affected by this design are the Dodge Ram 1500,  Dodge 2500, and Dodge 3500 (and also include Jeep Cherokee XJ, the Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ and WJ, TJ and JK Jeep Wrangler, and trucks like Toyota, Ford,  as well as early Ford Broncos).  This page is specific to the Dodge Ram Death Wobble Problem and discusses Death Wobble Causes and Cures.

Death Wobble is also extremely difficult to try to diagnose and fix, because it is actually caused by slop in the entire steering system and the axle attachment as a whole, not by one component.

To diagnose and fix Death Wobble correctly, you or your mechanic needs to look for “play” everywhere in the steering and front suspension system, searching for anything that could have “play” in it.  It’s very time consuming to find a Death Wobble fix, and can be downright dangerous while you are in “testing phase”, trying to exorcise this demon from your Dodge Ram.  Here is a step-by-step guide you can print out and take outside with you, so that you can get your Dodge Wobble problem fixed once and for all.

Ram Death Wobble Causes and Cures Dodge Ram Front Suspension

Step 1)  The place I tell people to start, is with an overall visual inspection.  Spend 10 solid minutes under the front end, visually inspecting each one of the steering components for shiny spots on steel, rubber, or polyeurthane, which is typically indicative of suspension components that are moving around when they are not supposed to be.  Pay CAREFUL attention to the track bar (also called a Panhard Bar inside and ouside the USA, as well as variant spellings (and misspellings…) of  trackbar, tracbar, and trak-bar ).  The Track Bar is  often the culprit in many cases.  And, if any of your bolts are even the least bit loose, Death Wobble also can manifest itself and make your life a living hell, so check for looseness everywhere. 

Step 2)  If everything appears to be “normal” on the underside of your Ram, and you’ve verified the bolt tightness on both ends of the track bar, the next thing to do is to start with a good quality front end alignment by a reputable shop who is familiar with the nuances of aligning both a stock height and a lifted suspension 4×4.

 

Dodge Ram Caster Angle to Eliminate Dodge Wobble Dodge Wobble is cured or substantially reduced with new tight steering components and the correct caster.

Step 3)  Have them make sure that caster (frequently misspelled as ” castor “) is set correctly, as well as the proper toe-in.  If you have recently hit a large pot hole, curb, or you’ve been offroading and have bent your tie rod even slightly, that, also, will throw off your alignment.  Plus, it’s only $40 or so at your local alignment shop.  By the way, DO NOT let the alignment shop talk you into a four-wheel alignment, as this is only useful on vehicles with independent rear suspension in my experience, and since there are no adjustment points in the rear of a live-axle vehicle ANYWAY, you’re merely paying for a service that you won’t get by the time you leave the alignment shop.  Furthermore, if you have a lift kit suspension installed on your Ram, make sure that the alignment shop you choose knows the variant specifications for lifted vehicles, and that they do NOT set it to the “default/stock” settings.  A good quality alignment shop familiar with lifted Dodge 4×4 trucks will know these settings, and a poor quality shop will likely tell you that it doesn’t matter whether it’s lifted or not…and that they use the stock specs.  If so, walk away immediately, or hang up the phone and call the next shop, if they do.

Step 4)  If you are now *certain* that the front end alignment that it’s set correctly, and that you have not replaced ANY other front end components recently (including tires or wheels) that may have caused the dreaded Dodge Wobble oscillation to begin, I tell people the next most suspect thing is the factory front track bar.  Over time, the tie rod end on the upper portion of the Panhard or track bar will develop slop (some applications, including the Dodge Ram, have a rubber bushing configuration, which also wears out)  in it due to wear and miles on the vehicle.  The same findings often goes for the lower end bushing, which has a rubber or polyurethane isolator bushing in it, and this “slop” will allow the Dreaded Death Wobble oscillation to occur. Aftermarket trackbars generally come with urethane bushings that allow a LOT less “play” (with respect to movement / crush) than the factory rubber bushings do (the Hard-KOR SuperDurometer Track Bar Bushings we developed, due to this problem, has a lot less play than even an aftermarket style Polyurethane bushing).  The problem with most aftermarket track bars for the Jeep is that they also come with either a Heim joint, Johnny Joint, or tie rod end on the upper end of the Track Bar, which works fine for a while, but wears out over time, leaving you right back where you started, with a large mess in your shorts, a temporarily deafened right ear (from the wife screaming for dear life, or, quite possibly at YOU, for buying your Ram to begin with, lol), and an overall high level of frustration with your entire Dodge in general…which doesn’t often lead into a smooth, stress-free trip.

Upgrade Kit for Dodge Ram Track Bar Dodge Ram Track Bar Upgrade to Tighten Steering and Help Eliminate Dodge Wobble

The reason why Dave developed the Dodge Wobble Resistant Track Bar Kit is to eliminate that problematic (and expensive to have to replace when it wears out) previously mentioned joint, as well as for the additional flex benefits you get out of it.  If you are running an Dodge Ram with or without Dodge Wobble, and it has more than 1.5″ of lift, I highly recommend you check it out. Many aftermarket track bars as well as the stock track bar are completely ineffective in managing Death Wobble due to their “effective angle of operation” particularly if you are above say 2 or 3 inches of lift.  Keep the thought in the back of your mind, that another alignment is necessary after replacing ANY front end components, especially if Ram Death Wobble still remains.  Sometimes you might get lucky and don’t need one…but be forewarned.

A complementary product we have found to work VERY well in getting rid of Death Wobble is our exclusive Hard-KOR brand SuperDurometer Track Bar Bushings, which are also available for the Dodge Wobble Resistant Track Bar Kitand fit most “normal” sized 1.6″ ID by 1.25″ deep aftermarket and factory track bar end loops, which would originally take a 1.6″ OD rubber cartridge bushing.  Our SuperDurometer Track Bar Bushings are about TWO TIMES as hard as the typical polyurethane bushings that come in most aftermarket track bars, (which typically are made by Daystar or Energy Suspension for most of the various aftermarket manufacturers).  Polyurethane bushings are also one of the least expensive replacement parts in the steering components, so they make sense to try first.

Ram Death Wobble Causes and CuresStep 5)  The next thing to check is your steering damper.  I recommend AT THE MINIMUM, replacing the damper (or stabilizer, as it’s sometimes called) at the same time as whatever worn components that you find under the front end, as this “combination punch” is very often more effective than the change caused by each of the parts alone.  Death Wobble shakes EVERYTHING, and loosens up OTHER components at the same time.  I’ve found that replacing the damper by itself often times doesn’t eliminate Dodge Wobble directly, but that it often helps with some other poor handling characteristics, which cause the onset of Dodge Wobble and Ram Death Wobble (such as wandering, for instance) and a new one seems to tighten up the entire steering system.  I ONLY recommend the Dodge Wobble Resistant DTP Dual Steering Damper, because it seems to be tighter and work better for stopping Ram Death Wobble than the other manufacturers of steering dampers and stabilizers on the market (and I’ve tried them all, trying like hell to get rid of a Death Wobble problem years ago).  They are also the most heavy duty that I’m aware of.  These two stabilizers are the ONLY ones that I recommend to ANYONE who is having trouble with Ram Death Wobble, and it’s also one of the least expensive parts to replace in your steering system to attempt to remedy the dreaded Dodge Wobble problem.

Step 6)  Here are some other steering components to check over for looseness or improper movement:

  • Tie Rod Ends (all four, plus the upper track bar end)

  • Upper and Lower Ball Joints

  • Track Bar Mounting Bracket Bolts

  • Steering Box Bolts

  • Track Bar Ends

Dodge Ram Steering Stabilizer Steering Stabilizer for Dodge Ram 1500, 2500, & 3500

Another product that we’ve found assists measurably with Dodge Wobble, is our DTP Steering Stabilizer Steering Box Brace for the Dodge Ram 1500, Dodge 2500, and Dodge 3500, which holds the steering gear box tightly on those two models, allowing the additional stresses of running larger-than-stock tires be directed to BOTH frame rails, rather than depending on the three little bolts that hold the gear to the frame, which get loose and if they do, will snap the gear box ears off the box, and leave you stranded somewhere you don’t want to be. Another source of Ram Death Wobble & Dodge Wobble is over-inflated tires ( See Boyle’s Law and consider how much more volume of air is inside your 35″ or 37″ tires compared to stock-sized tires).

Step 7)  The last thing that I can mention that has caused Death Wobble in the past is hub bearings.  If there is a little slop in them over the years and miles, they MAY indeed help to cause the oscillation as well.  I mentioned them last because they are the most expensive to replace, and probably least likely to be the ROOT of the problem (though they might be a component adding to the problem). While you have the front end apart, you should consider adding some offset upper ball joints to your Dodge Ram if you’re running a lift kit, in order to return the caster back to what a stock Ram would be if you are running say 4″ of lift or more.  Be aware that on 4×4 models, by NOT changing the ball joints to the offset type, you add more vibration to the front drive shaft since you are also turning your pinion angle downward in conjunction with every caster angle increase.  In other words, you can’t have one without the other, and on the full-time 4×4 models, you’ll get a little vibration at highway speeds by NOT doing so.  Compared to Dreaded Dodge Wobble, however, this is a VERY small price to pay, lol.

Hopefully this short checklist gets you started on the right foot and helps to cure your Dodge Wobble problems, and gives you a permanent Death Wobble Fix.

Very Sincerely,

-=Kevin=-

{ 134 comments… read them below or add one }

Zach October 23, 2014 at 4:39 pm

Hey Kevin I have a 1999 dodge 2500 that for the first time it wobbled and bounced the whole truck at 35 mph but it just felt like the passenger front tire, could this be the death whobble?

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jamie October 22, 2014 at 5:30 pm

i got a 2004 dodge 2500 that had the death wobble it got so bad it ruined my rotors i found that the stabilizer bar links were bad so i replaced them and all 4 rotors thought i had it fixed now all the sudden it is back any ideas

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Mitchell October 17, 2014 at 8:42 am

I am having an issue with DW in my 2005 dodge ram 2500 I noticed this after I took my truck in to get the alignment corrected because it was drifting on the road but now I have DW I took my truck into a shop here and they didn’t help at all they just told me that my driver side shock is wore out. this only happens at speeds around 35-50 MPH. Any Ideas of what to do?

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Kevin October 17, 2014 at 3:47 pm

Sorry to hear it, Mitchell. Yeah, the above article should help you immensely…print it out and wedge yourself under the rig, and start there. We also offer a book on how to cure it, if you need more specific info than the article above has:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

The book can also be handed off to your Mechanic…very specific tests and documentation in there. We spent a lot of time creating it, and it has been very helpful to folks in your position.

-K

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Bruce October 15, 2014 at 5:54 pm

Kevin
I have a 2006 Ram 3500 4×4 without a lift. I was able to correct the death wobbles by replacing the following: steering gear box, track bar bushings, added a duel steering dampened, changed to an up graded tee style linkage, added steering gear box brace. The problem what I now have is the truck floats down the road when I tow. I have changed the tires and adjusted the tire pressure but the truck still wounders down the road. What do you recommend I do?

I was thinking about a track bar upgrade, and/or new bearing hubs, and/or new ball joints (offset?) or stock ball joint angles. What are your thoughts and recommendations.

Thank you

Bruce

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Kevin October 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm

Bruce, what is your toe-in setting? If it’s too close to zero, what you’re describing may happen.
-K

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Bruce October 16, 2014 at 6:07 pm

Kevin

What should the toe in be at?

Thanks
Bruce

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Bruce October 16, 2014 at 6:12 pm

Kevin

Do you have a track bar part number for my 06 Ram 3500 4×4 without a lift and does a new track bar come with your heavy duty bushings or is that a separate order and part number?

Thanks
Bruce

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Kevin October 17, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Here you go, Bruce:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/0308-dodge-2500-track-bar-upgrade-kit-models-w-0-4-lift-p-1146/
Bushings are separate, sold here:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/hardkor-superhard-rockwell-durometer-75d-bushings-for-track-p-290/
Toe in depends on tire style and size, and there’s no “magic” number. No lift, factory style highway tires (not larger or offroad tires), I’d say keep it fairly close to factory setting, but slightly less toe-in.
-K

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Bruce October 18, 2014 at 9:56 am

Kevin,

The tires I’m running with are BF Goodrich all terrain T/A tires, so would the toe in as you mentioned above apply?

Also I’m going to be ordering your track bar so how do I adjust it for stock lift?

Thanks
Bruce

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Kevin October 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm

Bruce, those tires would fit between the factory and zero settings for toe-in.

You will adjust the length of the track bar to center the truck over the axle almost perfectly…or within a 1/4″ or so…

K

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John October 12, 2014 at 9:01 am

i have a 2011 dodge ram 1500 with 26K miles. Lately the front right tire begins to bounce and shake at over 70 mph. I have read your website and have checked all tightness. I have new tires that were balanced and went to a reputable alignment where he said my castor was off and was replaced. It does not shake as bad as i have seen on the web, but do not want to get to that point. Have you seen this occurring in the later models? and besides all information on this site, any thing else. Thanks

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Kevin October 13, 2014 at 2:29 pm

John, if it’s ONLY the right tire shaking, and it’s at that speed (70), my guess is that it’s either a tire that’s out of round, or one that didn’t get fully balanced. This does NOT sound like Death Wobble to me, thankfully. :-)

Kevin

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Pat October 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm

What about the brand of tires? I researched a ton before purchasing BFG All Terrains and many folks have had zero issue with them. The guy at Carli Suspensions in CA swears that those tires cause the problem. He then told me that Toyo’s were about the only tire I could run on the truck (2009 2500 4X4 Quad cab). Problem is I shook with the stock tires but he didn’t care and told me the BFG’s were the problem?? How can a round and balanced tire cause the problem? And why is Dodge still making front ends that shake new?

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Rob October 8, 2014 at 5:43 pm

I have Toyos on my ’07 MegaCab and the death wobble is in full effect. They are great tires but certainly not the problem nor the solution.

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Kevin October 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm

Totally agreed, Rob!

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Kevin October 8, 2014 at 8:53 pm

Tires can be a Death Wobble trigger in several different ways:

1) The greater mass of the tire (…the heavier it is…), the more force it places on your front suspension and steering.
2) The greater the mass, the harder it is to get them “perfectly” balanced.
3) The worse quality the overall construction of the tire, the harder it is to balance.
4) The more air volume inside the larger tires, versus the factory tires, the more “bounce” the tire has to it, which also triggers Death Wobble.
5) The softer the rubber compound, the more likely they will trigger Death Wobble.

BFG tires are a good quality design and construction. So are Toyos, and so are Goodyears and a few other “name brands” that are out there. However, even a good tire can get cupped, get out of balance, out of round, and develop flat spots, which can and will trigger death wobble.

That said, I ONLY run “huge-manufacturer-name-brand” tires, because I made the mistake of purchasing a set of ProComp XTR tires (brand new) that were out-of-round from the factory, and by the tire I noticed a few thousand miles later, could not return them. I have also seen other off-brands come out-of-round or out-of-plane, same as my XTRs. Talk to a tire shop employee…ask them which offroad tires they consistently need the least amount of lead weights to balance, and THAT is going to be a tire with a good quality construction, and will last longer, as a result. It’s TOTALLY worthwhile buying a name-brand set of tires…because once they are 1/3 worn, you can sell them on Craigslist and purchase another new set.

Oh, and make certain to rotate your tires every 3,000 miles (EVERY oil change!) to keep them round and true. I rotate using an “X” pattern…the left front swaps with the right rear, and right front swaps with the left rear…then back again on the next oil change. This is the only way I’ve found to keep big offroad tires from cupping and destroying themselves before the tread depth becomes the reason to replace them.

Kevin

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Roger Walker October 1, 2014 at 6:23 pm

Can you tell me what alignment specs you would recommend for a 2010 Ram 2500 4×4 with the diesel and a 2.5″ front leveling kit? I have installed new Moog ball joints, adjustable track bar, drag links, tie rod ends, and still have the death wobble at highway speeds only. The only parts I have not changed yet are the control arms and am considering changing them with high quality aftermarket ones with extended lengths to compensate for the 2.5″ leveling kit.

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Roger Walker October 2, 2014 at 9:19 am

I also have added the steering box brace. Truck has 100K miles and has OEM rims and tire size.

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Kevin October 2, 2014 at 11:55 am

Hey there, Roger. There is no “magic” alignment settings to eliminate DW…because every rig is a bit different, but I’d start with zero, and slowly toe it in until it tracks straight down the road w/o wandering excessively, and without the 40-mph wobble that triggers death wobble. Tires are a HUGE cause of that oscillation that triggers Death Wobble…so if your tires are not PERFECTLY balanced dynamically, and your tread is cupped at all, you’re going to still have problems. Easiest thing to do is start with brand new tires, and rotate them in an X-pattern (ONLY) every oil change. This is the ONLY way I’ve found to get tires to remain usable through their lifetime. Even if you skip one rotation, it’s enough to throw a wrench into the program, with certain tires.

You’re going to want your caster around 4.5*-6.5*. Camber is not adjustable.

I’d also suggest HIGHLY, replacing the steering stabilizer with a dual stabilizer assembly and replacing the track bar and it’s bushings with one of our Heavy Duty DT track bars and our KOR-1199 SuperDurometer bushings at the same time. Those parts will also tighten up your steering response considerably…an extra added benefit!

K

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Mic September 28, 2014 at 12:53 pm

Any info on death wobble appreciated experienced and it is a violent shake and can cause whiplash I do believe. are attorneys involved yet, think they need to be’

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Kevin September 29, 2014 at 11:10 am

Not so sure about the whiplash portion, but if the above article was not as in-depth as you needed, here’s your next step:

http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

There’s a coupon code in there for savings off of the kits and components, if you need replacement stuff.

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Mic September 29, 2014 at 4:03 pm

it shook very violently, and others have said they deal with headaches now, do you know of any inccidents and if attorneys are getting involved,

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Kevin October 1, 2014 at 5:05 pm

I’ve had Death Wobble, personally, perhaps 100 times, Mic…with no headaches in the slightest with me, or any other customer we’ve ever spoken to (thousands of them, now…) .

If the vehicle is shaking AROUND you, and your head is not moving along with it, I can’t see any relation at all…that sounds REALLY far-fetched to me.

Kevin

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Michael September 27, 2014 at 9:05 pm

I have a 01 Ram 2500 4×4 with a 6″ lift (everything) has been replaced including the steering gear box just had the ball joints changed it all started when I put new wheel on it I thinks they made the tires sit out a little further (offset) need help or c4 lol

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Kevin September 29, 2014 at 11:09 am

Hey Michael. Wheel offset definitely has an affect on Death Wobble. If you still have the stock wheels, try putting them on, and see if the problem goes away. If so, you may need different offset aftermarket wheels that are closer to the factory offset. Also, did you get it aligned by a competent offroad shop that knows how to set the alignment on a lifted 4×4 truck? The toe-in may be too great for your setup…not sure…

Did you already read the how-to book? http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

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Mark September 24, 2014 at 3:32 pm

I just purchased the complete “DW Repair Kit” from you guys (track bar, steering box brace, and dual shock dampener), and also installed the upgraded OEM Mopar T-style steering linkage and new front shocks for good measure to remedy wobble that I had been dealing with for about 10,000 miles. Installed all the parts, then took the truck to a local alignment shop, everything checked out and aligned properly, also had front u-joints replaced at that time. Literally pulled out of the parking lot of the repair shop, hit the first little bump/break in the pavement about 1/4 mile up the road and the truck started to shutter (not full-blown wobble….yet). Went another 1/2 mile, hit another pavement seam (a little larger this time) and FULL BLOWN WOBBLE. You can imagine the 4 letter words flying as I just spent over $2K on front end parts to cure this problem (including u-joints in this figure as well). They did NOT put offset ball joints in, as they were still well within the factory alignment specs. I’m at a loss as to what to look for at this point???? I will be checking steering box bolts, but outside of that, what the heck else could it be? I see you mention tire pressure, but I’m not sure how that can be causing what I’m experiencing. The only parts that aren’t new are the sway bar bushings and the trailing arm bushings at this point. Any help is appreciated.

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Kevin September 24, 2014 at 4:07 pm

Oh, man…that’s crappy, Mark! Sorry to hear!!!

Yes, we can definitely help you. Let’s get you and Rob from our shop on the phone together, and since you’re already a good customer, he’ll take as long as he needs to, in order to get you going down the road wobble-free, and solve this issue for you!

Our shop number is 602-841-3355. Leave a voice mail if he doesn’t answer right away…he’s normally running around doing something.

Can you scan/copy/fax/text an image of the alignment specs that they set it to? You can have them send it to us directly if you weren’t given a copy.

What’s your front tire pressure set to?

We’ll get it fixed, my friend…!

Kevin

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Brayden F. September 10, 2014 at 12:57 pm

Hey, I’ve got a 1500 Mega Cab 4×4. I have been plagued with the death wobble for a few years now. I am always afraid to take my truck out of town for fear of something happening. I have a 2” leveling kit and had some larger tires on it. I have since put some stock tires back on and am thinking about taking the leveling kit off. It happens only at highway speeds generally around 60-75mph. It like someone just took the steering wheel and threw it out the window. I have to come to nearly a complete stop before the shacking stops. It also vibrates at every bump, crack, or change in surface. I have changed U joints and bearings out, i keep good pressure in the tires and constantly rotate and balance them. Is there a kit that has everything i need all in one? I don’t have the time, patience, or funds to go piece by piece. Nor am i mechanically inclined to do the work myself, so if i can change most or all of it out at once that would be great.

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Kevin September 16, 2014 at 10:22 am

Hi there, Brayden, and sorry to hear about your Death Wobble troubles. Because it’s really to ascertain exactly what components are the problem ones, especially from the other end of a keyboard, lol….you’d probably be best off purchasing one of the Dodge Death Wobble packages, and replacing EVERYTHING at once. Here’s a link to what you’re looking for:

http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-cures-dodge-ram-death-wobble-cures-1994present-c-42_82/

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Perry Kolarek September 9, 2014 at 9:28 am

This death wobble, does it on happen when driving?
I own a 2011 Ram 2500 and when I’m at a dead stop, pulling away, there is a vibration. It’s worst when I back up into my driveway. I have taken it to the dealer (warranty) 4 times, and before the warranty ran out, the dealer said it was the rack. They replaced it and the vibration is still there. If fact, when I picked it up from the dealer, the alignment was jacked. I drove it to the local auto break place here in Little Elm Texas. I was told by the manager that the Cam bolt was striped out and that’s why it wouldn’t stay aligned. They will fix this and go from there, but do you think the vibration is due to that Cam bolt being striped out? Any ideas?

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Kevin September 10, 2014 at 7:47 am

Hey there, Perry. Definately not Death Wobble in your case. If you’re experiencing vibrations from a dead stop, and the front tires are not turned left or right when you’re experiencing it, I HIGHLY doubt it’s related at all to the steering. I’d check U-joints and pinion bearing in your rear axle. Could also be transmission mounts or engine mounts.

Did you take your service adviser for a ride, showing him what it’s doing while it was doing it?

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Michael Altom September 6, 2014 at 6:14 am

My 2011 Dodge only has 15,000 miles on it and is doing the death shake. Everything seems to be tight under the front end. Was wandering if you could suggest where to start to fix the issue. If I can’t get it fixed I will be trading it off.

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Kevin September 8, 2014 at 7:41 am

Hi there, Michael. If the article didn’t get you the info you needed to start in on fixing it, we also have a book with deeper detail. Here’s a link:

http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

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James September 4, 2014 at 5:46 am

2005 Dodge 3500 DRW 5.9L 4×4 – I am in a dilemma regarding our truck. We have a farm and use the truck to survive. I have replaced a lot of the front end parts prior to deal with dodge wobble and am at that point again. Is it worth to try and keep this truck model/year and redo all of the upper/lowers in the front end, upgrade steering linkage, add a dual steering stabilizer and a solid driveshaft? Or, is it better to sell, take a hit and upgrade to a 2010 4500? I am not convinced I would like the 6.7 over the 5.9.

Also, what can be done about the brake calipers…poor design and they always bind up creating drag and glazing the rotors?

Thanks,

James

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Kevin September 8, 2014 at 7:39 am

Hi there, James. For the amount of money you’re going to spend to upgrade to the newer 2010 model, you could re-do the steering over and over again on your 2005, lol. I’d run the ’05 until the wheels fell off…it’s a good truck, and the 2010 has the same Death Wobble issues, anyway.

I believe there was a recall on the brake rotors through Chrysler…did you check on that through the dealership already, or search online for a TSB or anything?

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Kevin Obrien August 20, 2014 at 7:50 am

Hello, I have an 03 ram 2500 and have spent tons on the new t style steering and a steering box stabilizer as well as the new pitman arm to cure the death wobble. New track bar installed and the ball joints are tight yet I still get the wobble albeit not as violent as it was before the new parts, but still there.
What am I missing?

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Kevin September 2, 2014 at 7:04 pm

Sorry, Kevin…didn’t realize we hadn’t gotten back to you on this yet. Here’s a list of a few things to make certain they are “good”.

1) Toe-in setting…toe it out a bit from where it is, and see how it’s affected. Better?
2) Reduce tire pressure slightly. Better or worse?
3) Steering dampener is fresh/new/excellent shape, right?
4) Ball joints are in good shape? Hub bearings too?

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mike July 25, 2014 at 6:28 pm

I have a 95 dodge ram 1500 4×4 driving about 35 in hit a bump on the road the right front wheel bounces till I trun it left then it will stop it feels like the wheel is going to fall off

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Walter DeDeo July 23, 2014 at 9:22 am

2011 ,Ram 1500 with 4wd pro 6″ lift . 35/12.5 /20′s and a shimmy problem over 45mph . Any suggestions ? Btw ,if I take off slow and slowly get to 50 mph it much better .Right hand turns or bumps start it happening all over again. The lift was installed at the dealership were I p99urchased the truck 3 months ago .

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Walter DeDeo July 23, 2014 at 8:54 am

2011 ,Ram 1500 with 4wd pro 6″ lift . 35/12.5 /20′s and a shimmy problem over 45mph . Any suggestions ?

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Dean DeMartino July 14, 2014 at 12:34 pm

i have a 2013 ram 3500 dully that has 8,900 k on it. last week i hit several bumps in the road on the driver side and the death wobble began. clearly ram has not fixed the problem. ram advised me that the alignment and caster was off and aligned it. i am going to lad the truck and begin testing to see if i can recreate it.

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Nick June 30, 2014 at 10:07 am

I have an 09 dodge ram with a leveling kit on it. Recently I started to find that truck starts to rock side to side over some bumps or even spots in the road. It gets increasingly bad at speeds over 65-70mph, and even worse with 3 or 4 people in the truck or any weight in the back. New hub assembly’s on both sides in the front. Passenger side tie rod is new, and alignment done. All tires enfalted properly, and tire shop says they don’t think it has anything to do with the tires. Does this sound like the death wobble? Any thoughts?

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Kevin June 30, 2014 at 11:43 am

No, Nick…you can definitely mark Death Wobble off your list of possibilities if you’re describing a “rocking” action. Death Wobble is a VIOLENT shaking, which, once it’s triggered, won’t stop until you slow down to under 35-ish MPH. What it sounds like you’re describing is not DW…however, I am curious what you find out. Will you check back with us once you figure it out? Very odd.

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Michael DuPont June 23, 2014 at 8:57 am

I have a 2010 dodge 3500 4×4 mega cab, stock wheels and tires. Rough country leveling spacers, and air bags in rear. I have replaced inside,outside tie rod ends on left and right also pitman arm end along with steering stabilizer. Before and after replacement and alignment I have had the death wobble, only things not replaced is track bar and control arms. For some reason when I am hooked up to 40′ gooseneck truck seems to not do it as much, almost impossible to drive when driving truck alone. Was looking into a new track bar, but I have two shops telling me I need to change lower control arms because of leveling kit first! Need help!

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Kevin June 23, 2014 at 1:22 pm

Oh hell…Death Wobble while pulling a 40′ trailer??!! That’s gotta suck big time!!!

I’d say getting our Death Wobble fix kit is going to be money well spent for you. It comes with a steering gear box brace and a track bar with our SuperDurometer bushings…as well as a dual replacement stabilizer kit.

http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/dodge-ram-0912-hardkor-death-wobble-package-for-0-to-4-of-suspension-lift-p-1634/

After all that is installed, have your alignment checked over really well…should have a bit less toe-in than the factory spec, if you’re running larger-than-factory tire size.

If the LCA bushings are bad (I highly doubt the bushings are bad from the leveling kit…that doesn’t make sense to me…they don’t lift enough to create a problem, normally, but the bushings MIGHT be worn if you put some miles on the thing), then replace them at the same time, so that everything is fresh.

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Eric June 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

I have a 2003 Dodge Ram 3500DRW 4×4 stock height. I experienced the wobble today at 70 mph when I crossed a bridge expansion joint. I read your very helpful article. My question is do you have parts for nonlifted trucks? Also how detailed are your installation guides?

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Rob - KOR Customer Service June 24, 2014 at 9:21 am

Hi Eric,

We certainly do have parts for your stock height vehicle. The track bar can be found here: http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/dodge-2500-steering-track-bar-upgrade-kit-0308-models-w-034-434-lift-p-1146/

The installation guides are very detailed with lots of pictures. The guide for your truck is available here: http://www.dtprofab.com/assets/images/PDF/DTP02003H1.pdf

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Regards,

Rob
KOR Staff

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Kris June 12, 2014 at 11:08 am

wanted to say thanks for this write up. I have been struggling with a wandering situation since last august when I put new tires and replaced the ball joints. My problem appears to have been the track bar bushings. the movement I noticed was maybe a 1/4 inch when you rocked the steering wheel everything else looked tight. Replaced the track bar and my steering has firmed up nice…need an alignment … but huge difference. A word of caution though for those of you with an 07 dodge ram be sure you know the build date of your vehicle. In March of 07 they changed the track bar and after market bushing kits will not work. I guess I missed that and didnt know until I had already beat the old ones out…..250.00 mistake. Oh well. I also found out that most of part stores databases in my area suggest the same pre-March 07 part number for the 08′s which is wrong.

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Kevin June 13, 2014 at 3:49 pm

Right on, Kris…thank you for your feedback! Glad to assist!!

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Dave June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am

I have a 2013 Ram 3500 4×4 that now has about 20,000 KM on it. Over the last three months I have experienced violent vibration four times. It happens at highway speeds (about 100 k/hr ) when I hit a rough patch of pavement it occasionally goes into a vibration that shakes the truck so bad that I can hardly hold the steering wheel and it feels like the truck will be shaken apart. The speed has to be reduced substantially before vibration stops. The truck is completely stock and has not been off roaded except for the crappy highways we have in this part of Saskatchewan. It has happened with winter tires, with summer tires, while towing, while not towing. Any Ideas ?

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Kevin June 13, 2014 at 3:48 pm

Yeah, Dave…that definitely sounds like Death Wobble. We sell a book that may be helpful to you, and comes with a discount if you purchase repair parts from us. It’s specific to Jeeps, however, Jeeps and Dodge Rams share some components, and may indeed be helpful for you as well:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

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Ryan M June 4, 2014 at 7:17 am

About a year ago I purchased an 06 RAM 2500 Quad cab 4X4 Laramie. Truck has 65k miles. Modifications that were done before I purchase it are leveling kit on the front, additional leaf springs in the back (equivalent to a 3500), custom rims and 35′s. I noticed a slight shake at 60 mph when I bought it, but nothing too bad. However over the past couple weeks, it has gotten significantly worse. Only happens right at 60 mph. Slower is fine and it decreases then disappears at about 65 mph. I’m new to this, any idea’s? Tires should be balanced, and alignment seems okay (doesn’t pull one way or the other.

Thanks!

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Kevin June 5, 2014 at 3:57 pm

That sounds a LOT more like an unbalanced tire to me, than it does Death Wobble, Ryan. Check to see if any weights have come off, or if you have some mud lodged in the inside of the rim area…

Death Wobble is more of a violent shaking…which I don’t think is what you’re describing here.

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Ryan M June 11, 2014 at 10:50 am

That is what I thought it would be. Took it into the Dealership to have the tires balanced/rotated and do a front end alignment just to rule it out. Dealership looked at it and said Right Axle joint is loose and the ball joints have a lot of play. Also said the steering gear is binding a bit. I’m taking it to another mechanic to get 2nd opinion and hopefully lower price than the $2,500 the dealer wants.

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Marv Hueston June 2, 2014 at 9:35 pm

I Have experienced the wobble a few times and know many other owners that have also. They spent thousands trying to rectify the situation with no luck. I have a 97 2500 Dodge diesel that is not in perfect shape. I’m actually running on a self alignment at the time. The only thing I’ve noticed after 2 tire changes is that the wobble doesn’t happen with new tires. Only after the passenger tire is worn slightly on the outer edge then the wobble will occur. My advice is get an alignment and use new tires. For me and I’ve tried it, the more the misaligned tires wore the more frequent the death wobble happened. Install new tires and it runs trouble free with no wobble at all, until the wear occurs again.

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Marv Hueston June 2, 2014 at 9:41 pm

Oh by the way I have over 560000 Km on this truck.

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Kevin June 5, 2014 at 3:55 pm

Great insight, Marv…thank you!

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Lee May 24, 2014 at 12:11 pm

I have a 2007 Dodge Ram two wheel drive. The left front wheel rubs on the sway bar when turned all the way to the right (the right wheel does not rub) I have stock; rims, suspension, and sized tires.

The rods that connect the sway bar to the control arm, and the hubs on both front wheels have been replaced. But the left tire continues to rub the sway bar and the alignment only lasts for about a month, I have ruined one set of tires prematurely already.

What is the best option?

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Kevin May 26, 2014 at 9:44 am

Hi there, Lee. Even though this is not at all related to Death Wobble, I’m going to see what I can do to assist you anyway.

First, can you tell if the sway bar is centered under the rig? If not, this may be causing your problem. It can be solved by using a pair of 2-piece shaft collars on either the inside or the outside of your sway bar bushings, to keep the bar from shifting left/right.

Here’s a link: http://www.zoro.com/g/00164305/k-G1344576

Second, if your axle assembly is not centered under the vehicle, that could cause this problem as well. Can you measure how far each tire sticks out from the frame, or inner fender? If they match, then it’s likely sway-bar related, not axle-positioning.

Lastly, on most Dana front axle assemblies, there are “steering stops” that dis-allow the knuckle to turn any further. You may have some success adjusting the steering stop for the right-turn. On a Jeep, you just add a washer under the nut, and thread it back together again. Not 100% sure how these are configured on your Ram.

Kevin

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Walter Copeland May 21, 2014 at 7:09 pm

I have a 98 dodge 1500 4×4 front passenger wheel hub will only last about 14 months. What do I need to check

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Kevin May 22, 2014 at 2:39 pm

Not sure, Walter. That’s not something we’ve come across as of yet.

I’m guessing that it has more to do with the quality of the hub bearing than anything else. These are not Mopar/Dodge hub bearings, or are they?

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Mat Irish May 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm

So are you mainly selling products you make and sell? Where do these items come from?

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Kevin May 22, 2014 at 2:36 pm

Yes, about 75% of our offered items are products we develop and manufacture.

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Tom May 19, 2014 at 8:06 pm

I have an 01 Dodge Ram 1500 with a 4 1/2″ tough country suspension lift. I have had death wobble ever since I put it on. I have broken 5 of the 18mm trackbar relocating bolts. To tell you the truth Im about to take the lift off. I have had all tie rods and track bar replaced and had an alignment at the local 4×4 shop. Any ideas?? At my wits end here.

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Kevin May 20, 2014 at 3:15 pm

Hey there, Tom. It wasn’t clear to me if you’d already gone step by step through the description above to help cure the problem or not. If you have, and that detail was not enough, then the next most helpful thing for you is going to be our book that’s even more detailed than the above, which you can order, and then print for you or your mechanic to go step by step. It also comes with a discount off of a Death Wobble Cure Kit, if you determine from the book that you are going to need replacement parts. Here’s a link:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/death-wobble-causes-and-cures-book-by-kevin-fell-p-1640/

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keith May 18, 2014 at 2:09 pm

Hey kev 2010 4×4 put a 2.5 coil lift duel stabilizers new shocks all around .has 80.000 miles and a steering box stabilizer toom it to the alighn shop the toe is out slighty my wheel is a tad crooked im good with the wobble untill i hit a crack or slight bump in road at 55 and 70 mph never did this until the lift any suggestions

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Kevin May 19, 2014 at 4:42 pm

Yeah, Keith…I don’t think they got your toe-in set correctly, it sounds. Get that corrected, and you may be good. If not, let us know, and we can set you up with replacement parts, as needed, if indeed that’s the problem.

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Rob May 14, 2014 at 10:42 am

Just a quick question. I have a 06 1500 megacab 4×4. When I hit a bump moving slowly, the truck seems shudder or have a slight after shocks. I have installed new shocks, tires, ball joints, u-joints. Still there. Hanger bearing was just installed and this helped but you can stilI feel it. Could it be possibly the lower control arms slightly worn giving me this effect. Thanks for any thoughts you may have.

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Kevin May 16, 2014 at 8:09 am

Rob, what you’re describing doesn’t sound like Death Wobble to me, which is the good news. The bad news, is that it’s really tough to diagnose something like what you’re describing because it doesn’t happen until you’re driving.

Definitely check the control arm bushings as you mentioned…but also all the rubber components you can find, including the cab and bed mounts to the frame. If you have a lift kit installed, check all the mounting points of those components.

Not my area of expertise, but hopefully there’s something in there that will help. Check back with us and let us know what it was once you find it, to help out others having the same problem.

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Rob May 17, 2014 at 5:55 am

Thanks for your thoughts

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Randall May 6, 2014 at 10:23 am

Hey guys!!

I have read a lot on here about the “Death Wobble” and how to figure it out and fix it. I also see that most refer to the 4X4 truck. I have a 1995 Ram 1500 2WD 318. It has 250k on it and has just now started with this wobble. I do have an alignment issue, pulls to the right. I can do 55 with minimal wobble. When I hit 60 it starts…seems to diminish, however, when going up a hill. Also seems to get worse when sowing down from 60 (No Brake). To my knowledge, front end has never been worked on, but I have spent several hours under the truck and have found nothing to be loose or otherwise missing. Could the wobble in this case be caused by an alignment issue? Seems odd. I have had alignment issues with others and there be no suck wobble. This is my only transportation right now. Any suggestion would be appreciated.

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Kevin May 6, 2014 at 3:59 pm

Hey there, Randall. Your 2wd 1500 has independent front suspension, not a solid front axle housing, so getting Death Wobble is not as easy to get as it is on a live-axle style suspension system, however, we have had lifted Chevys with independent front suspension in our shop which had developed Death wobble too.

I would check the upper and lower bushings that mount the a-arms to the subframe assembly, check toe-in, check inflation of your tires, check wear patterns on the tires, and check the camber.

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daren April 14, 2014 at 10:57 am

I have all the same problems with my 2010 3500. So if gm has to replace it’s mess up why can’t we get dodge to fix there suspension design flaw. It’s time to hold those accountable for there inability of making a safe vehicle. It’s not up to us 5 he public to spend our money to buy the vehicle and spend our money to r and d it, they should have the r and d part done prior to sale.

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jj April 12, 2014 at 4:50 pm

Hey guys i got a question i have replaced all ball joints,tie rods,and steering stabilizer shock. I also have the bracket for that stabilizer box. Just bought a brand new trac bar. But only problem now is a shake from 40-50 accelerating or declining but once out of that range it clears out. Almost feel like I’m bouncing like a kangaroo. Any fix? Dodge 3500 4×4 dually mega cab

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Kevin April 14, 2014 at 9:55 am

I’m thinking too much toe-in, or too much pressure in your tires (or both). -K

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patrick April 22, 2014 at 4:02 pm

if vibration is felt throughout the body i would have your drive line checked out. the only other thing i can think of is out of balance tires but that seems very unlikely.

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Kevin April 22, 2014 at 6:23 pm

I think what he’s explaining is more of a “shaking” (low-speed oscillation: Death Wobble, or at least the beginnings of it…) more so than a high-speed oscillation driveline vibration.

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Logan April 7, 2014 at 9:51 am

I have a 96 Ram 2500 with a 2″ factory lift, then a 2.5″ rough country leveling kit on it too. When i put the kit on, it started getting the wobble between 40-50 , but once its past there, its fine. I know the track bar needs replaced, and its getting done this week. any other suggestions?

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Kevin April 11, 2014 at 8:29 am

A beefy aftermarket Track bar with SuperDurometer bushings, and a toe-in alignment (set for a lifted vehicle) would be where I’d start.

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Jimmy February 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm

Hello to everyone and I hope everyone is doing fine! I just purchased my first Dodge about a week and a half ago,2012 Ram 1500 4×4 Big Horn. I was driving to work this morning and went over a few bumps and potholes nothing to bad but when I got on the xway around 50-55mph my front end started shaking and was getting worse with increase in speed. My truck is just a stock front end so my question is what part or parts would best help me remedy the issue I’m having? I don’t plan on lifting it at all and I have an appt. at the dealer in the morning. Just sucks I have to pay $100 just for them to look at it when I just bought the damn thing! Thanks,

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Kevin February 10, 2014 at 5:22 pm

hey there, Jimmy, I would definitely make them pick up the cost. You purchased it there, and they need to have some sort of responsibility in the matter. Had they advertised that the truck had this problem when you purchased it, you would’ve either offered them less money, or you would not have purchased it. The previous owner probably had full awareness of the problem, and may not have mentioned it to the dealership when it was traded in…hard to say…however, THEY are the ones who are responsible at this point. Make sure you hold them accountable.

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Nathan February 3, 2014 at 1:30 am

I have a 2009 2500 dodge cummins I’ve tried everything to cure my death wobble. The truck has a 6″ pro comp lift, 35×12.5″ tires I run 4″ of backspacing on a set of 17×9″ rims to avoid rubbing issues, progressive rate coils with fox shocks all around and ride rite leafs in the rear, I put a BDS steering box brace on as well as an adjustable heavy duty BDS track bar, BDS dual sterring stabilizers, New upper and lower moog ball joints , New wheel bearings and new front ujoints all around. I’ve had my tires balanced and rotated, alignment done at a veryreputable tire shop. And still nothing I’ve dumped over 8000$ into parts and labor and still can’t drive highway speeds without my truck going into a death wobble I’m just about ready to park it as I can’t think of anything else (weak link) to change.

Any info or anything you can think of I might of missed would be very helpful. Any specs for castor, toe in our out for 6″ lift

thanks

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Kevin February 10, 2014 at 5:15 pm

I’m sorry to hear you’re having so much trouble with Death Wobble, Nathan. What are the current alignment specifications? Did the shop print out the specs, and give it to you last time you were in? Have you adjusted the toe in setting yourself, to experiment with it?

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James W January 31, 2014 at 3:15 pm

I have a 2005 Dodge ram 2500 and recently the infamous “death wobble” has returned. It seems to happen only when the temperature of the outside air is above freezing, I’m going more than 65mph, and I hit a bump. I have replaced the entire steering linkage, steering stabilizer, the track bar, upper and lower ball joints. Had the vehicle aligned and all was well for a few months. But now its back. I did notice today a little bit of play in the sway bar bushings and one of the links appears to be on the verge of breaking. (the rubber boot is torn but metal is intact). All steering linkage is tight and there is no play in the steering box or wheel bearings. Any ideas or past experiences with this problem on correcting it. Thanks

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Kevin February 10, 2014 at 5:13 pm

have you already checked your track bar bushings for play, James? You may also need to have the front end realigned, as that tends to go out of spec over a period of time, miles, and bumps in the road and will reset it as well.

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Will M January 24, 2014 at 1:00 pm

I just bought a 2008 Dodge 1500 Mega Cab 4X4. It has a 6″ lift with 35″ tires. It has a vibration/noise at highway speeds. The dealership has changed a lot of factory parts and have not been able to find the problem yet. There is not death wobble but the noise is very frustrating. Also the noise seems to get much worse once the truck has been running for a while although the noise is much less in very cold climates. Maybe something is getting hot and expanding?
Any ideas?

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Kevin January 29, 2014 at 11:51 am

Sounds like a bad u-joint or an out-of-balance driveshaft, perhaps?

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chad d December 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Hello,
i read these post. and i have had a different experience. 2008 1500 mega cab trx 4×4 5.7 hemi. relatively stock form. i have new ball joints and the oe stabilizer bar. new 285/75 tires.
after hitting a bad pothole at about 40 mph in traffic at night. power steering shut off. this has only happend once. but havent hit any pot holes this bad. my asumption. hit was so hard it jarred pwr fluid out of its function? hopeing this doesnt happen again. any ideas to avoid this again? thanks

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Robert December 9, 2013 at 1:11 pm

So i have a 1999 dodge ram 2500 V10. I get a wobble from around 30-50mph. I just put brand new 33×10.50r16 superswamper tsl radials on it. That seemed to help out alot but i still have the wabble. I also put a 2″ HBS levelibg kit on it the same time as the tires. So i replaced the passenger side ball joints(they were shot) the driver side were replaced before i bought the truck. Still wabbling. My steering gearbox is leaking and yhe pitman arm looks to be sitting at a slight angle. Also the sway bar lookd like it has moved about 1/8″. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you, Robert.

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Darwyn December 7, 2013 at 10:12 pm

Didn’t know this was a common problem with Rams. I’ve experienced this over the years with my ’97 and its always been the drivers side rotor I’d have replaced along with new brakes. 236k miles and never had suspention work done other than shocks the whole time. Not even an alignment.
Until last week. Decided I would replace everything and get an alignment this time figuring by now the occasional wobble problem probably has worn out the suspention. But now I have a new problem.
The mechanic said my steering might “stick” a little until it gets worn in. Sure enough if I turn the wheel slightly left or right it kinda sticks. And when you pull it back it goes to the other side and will stick until you start “chasing” it back and forth. Was the mechanic bs’n me about this going away or so you think he didn’t get something right?

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Randy December 3, 2013 at 8:33 am

So here goes…I have an 07 Dodge 3500 Megacab SLT Dually with a 6″ Superlift on 37×12.50s. I’ve had slight vibration since I have owned it but about 2 weeks ago I was coming back from picking my son up in TN, driving back up I-65 at 75mph and all of a sudden started getting the death wobble. I have never experienced it in this truck and I have owned it for almost 2 yrs. At speeds below 40mph there is no vibration, but as soon as I get up to 40mph the vibration and wobble are so bad that I can barely keep it on the road. I have looked at the frontend and the only thing I see is the swaybar link bushings are loose on the passenger side. I bought bushings for both sides and will replace them when life allows me to. I am also going to keep this page bookmarked for future reference in case that isn’t it…..

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BC November 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm

Death wobble what a joke!!!!

Has anyone started any kind of a lawsuit, and is it possible?
If so please post it, I’m on board

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allen conlee November 24, 2013 at 8:18 am

i have a 1996 dodge 1500 automatic that will shake at 50- 55 mph. if i drop into 2nd it wont shake at the least!!. but just as soon as i put it back into overdrive it starts shaking again. if i drive it at around 40-45 mph there is no shaking ether. what do you think the problem may be??. my son just recently put some tires on it (not new but they look almost new) any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Nick December 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm

I was wondering if you got the answer about your problem. I also have a 96 Dodge Ram and it is doing the samething with the shaking when i get up to 55mph.

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Jean November 17, 2013 at 7:19 am

Thank you so much for the info! Trying to figure mine out! Dealership wants to rape me in repairs I don’t need! But by reading your recommendation and other sites I have a pretty good idea what I’m looking for! Salute

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Michael D October 29, 2013 at 1:31 pm

Hey I have a 2011 Dodge Ram 4×4 1500… I have a 6 inch Rough Country sus, 1.25 body lift, Bilstein adjustable shocks up front set to 2.1 Inches, and 1 inch coil spacers in the back… I run 38 in tires and IT rides great well it used to. Minor things I have is a Vararam Intake and 87mm Ported Throttle Body. It has rode very well for 2 years with all this on it. I recently had 4.56 gears installed and have developed a slight shudder/vibration PERIODICALLY, not all the time when I drive at various speeds.. I have had the gears checked by 2 different shops, one being 4 WHEEL PARTs in Memphis and they all said the install specs were perfect. SO i had the wheels and tire balanced 2 different times at different shops and the front end realigned by a good truck place and my driveline checked for balance issues and it was balanced. Then I noticed that this shudder/vibration that I feel in my steering wheel and my seat also happens at IDLE IN PARK…. SO I dont know what it is? Rough country is sending me a set of adjustable upper control arms for the rear pinion angle to see if that will fix it, and other guys suggested spark plugs… I m not sure if this happened before the gears, but i notice now but Like i said theses shops had top reputations with very experienced “gear guys” and they both said its not the install… ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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Meghan October 23, 2013 at 8:41 am

I have a 2009 Dodge 2500 4×4 superduty 5.7 crewcab and not only does it have the death wobble when it hits a pot hole, but it has this insane vibration everytime you drive it! I bought the truck in 2011 because I was a divorced mother of three and my children and I like to go camping, fishing, and to flea markets, so we needed a truck. It was a second vehicle (more of a toy) so I didn’t drive it much. Once I remarried, my husband sold his truck and started driving this one. The vibration was horrific so we went to dodge and had a diagnostic ran and they said it needed the two front ujoints, upper and lower balljoints on both sides of the front and the most rear u joint (hoghead?) So we bought the parts they told us to get, (Moog I think) and took it back to have the labor done at the dealer. They then called and said after looking at it, the rear ujoint is fine. So they didnt replace it. It still had a vibration and when I called and told them they said to have it aligned and since we were about to buy new tires we had it all done at once. We went from 265′s to 285′s as well as had a tie rod end replaced due to a factory recall. The damn truck still had the worst vibration! It was miserable to drive or ride in, and still if you hit a hole it has the death wobble. So I took it back to where I got the tires (Taylorsville Tire in Indiana) this morning and had them check out the whole truck. They called and said the rear ujoint was about to break off! Thank goodness I still had the brand new part in the truck and they are changing it. I am livid pist at the Dodge dealership for saying the rear ujoint was fine, when obviously it wasn’t and I have half a mind to file a formal complaint with their main office as well as the BBB. If anything would have happend that caused harm to my family or myself, I would own that damn dodge dealership! My question is what could have happend if that ujoint broke off while I was driving it?

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Kevin October 23, 2013 at 12:53 pm

Wow, sorry to hear about your hassle with those guys, Meghan.

Thankfully, although a driveshaft coming apart at highway speeds is not at all what you’d have happen in an ideal world, it’s not a “catastrophic” failure. You’d still be able to steer, brake, and navigate. They are made out of fairly thin steel, so they will certainly bend and “corkscrew” into oblivion, but would almost never cause an accident.

Though I’ve seen them come apart on the highway, it’s more common to have one give out on you when you’re accelerating from a stop, moving at a few miles per hour. They also give out in low range, when you’re offroad.

I hope that solves your entire vibration problem. Have them pull BOTH front and rear shafts, and balance them, too, while you’re at it.

Kevin

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Ryan R October 22, 2013 at 9:27 am

I have a 2008 Dodge Ram megacab XST. Ever since i put a 3″ leveling kit on it(approx 3 weeks ago) the dreaded “Death Wobble” has happened twice while driving on the freeway. Scary shit!!! Since then I have had the truck aligned and all the tires checked for balance. Hopefully it goes away but if it doesnt whats the recommendation? Thanks

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Kevin October 22, 2013 at 10:26 am

Hey there, Ryan. I hope that cures it for you. If not, check into our DW packages specific for your rig, or spend some time under the rig identifying what’s loose, and order up those specific parts from one of the following sources: from us, from the Dodge dealership or from NAPA. DO NOT order any front end components from any discounted price/quality auto parts stores…we are constantly having customers tell us “I ordered a new one, but it’s loose when it came out of the box…could that be my problem?” when they get cheapie replacement parts.
Kevin

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Tex October 15, 2013 at 4:51 pm

I bought an extra clean 07 2500 4/4 megacab 6.7 in June of this year.Had upper and lower Moog ball joints,tie rod ends and rods where needed,plus new damper at 169k mi.Put a set of new shocks on the other day,truck is factory height,but has 285s instead of 265s.Just today this mfr went into a death wobble on a wet concrete interstate after hitting a very small pot hole on left.I was runnin about 70 and damn near lost it.Luckily there was nothing on shoulder cause I couldn’t keep it in my lane.I bout SHIT! Thank God my wife or daughter wasn’t driving! HELP!! HELL,I DREAD TESTING IT AGAIN AFTER SOMEONE CLAIMS TO HAVE FIXED IT,since it only seems to happen at dangerously high speeds. TEX

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Kevin October 17, 2013 at 9:21 am

Track bar should probably be replaced with one of the DT Products track bars, Tex, with our SuperDurometer bushings. Also, toe-in setting may be too aggressive…try a bit of toe-out, perhaps?

Track Bar: http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/dodge-2500-steering-track-bar-upgrade-kit-0308-models-w-034-434-lift-p-1146/

SuperDurometer Bushings: http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/hardkor-superhard-rockwell-durometer-72d-bushings-for-track-p-290/

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andrew October 14, 2013 at 11:23 am

Get a Chevy

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Dan Anderson October 3, 2013 at 5:28 am

I have a 2004 2500 diesel 4×4 with 77,000 miles. I have just experienced the death wobble will pulling my 5th wheel camper. What a night mare, I thought my wife and I had bought the farm. Took it to a shop they found nothing loose at all. I had replaced the damper 1month prior, maybe just an inferior part but had them replaced this with the Chrylser part. Had the front end alignment a couple weeks prior, wheels rebalanced after the wobble. Getting ready for a trip down 95, hope there are no issues. Any thoughts on this manner?

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Douglas Carbonera October 2, 2013 at 8:52 pm

Rob!

I´m From Brazil, and I have a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500, with a 6″ Lift Kit and Brand New 40×13.5 17″ tires on it.
I Have all the best parts in it:
- 6″ Long Arm Lift Kit
- Adjustable Chromoly Track bar
- Drop Pitman Arm
- Steering Box Stabilizer
- Heavy Duty Sway Bars
- Drop Bracket Track bar with Reinforcement brace
- Dual Steering Stabilizer

Just replaced All the Steering Linkage, and All Ball Joints of the front suspension, and Death Wobble comes when I reach 50~55MPH.

Maybe the Aligment is massing me out?? I just did it with all Stock Parameters…. Can you help me on that??

Thanks a lot!

Douglas Carbonera – Brazil

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Mike W. September 23, 2013 at 3:29 pm

Hey Rob, yeah truck has stock track bar. Just got back from the shop it’s at and it’s full on DW again. At wit send here. Just want it fixed so I can sell it. Would it be worth pulling the leveling kit?

Thanks Rob

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Mike W. September 21, 2013 at 9:15 pm

I have an 06′ 3500 drw cummins. Death wobble 10k and counting. Truck has leveling kit and nitto terra grapplers 285/70/17 load e 7k miles. I have replaced virtually everything in the front end.
All have less than 15k miles
Upgraded 08.5′ steering
BD sway bar links
Luke’s Link track bar bushings
Passenger side hub and bearing
Pass and driver upper and lower ball joints and is get the driver side repaired currently because they were bad again
Axle U-joints pass and driver
New steering box
BD steering box brace
Pro comp steering stabilizer

All this and I’m running out of money and patience on resolving this issue. Payed entirely to much money for this rig to have the issue. I’m tired of just “throwing” parts at it.
I’ve gotten it down to just happening on the driver side tire.
What are the alignment specs for ram with leveling kit?
Any other recommendations are more than welcome. Thanks in advance

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Rob - KOR Customer Service September 23, 2013 at 10:51 am

Mike,

Is the track bar on your truck stock? I know you said you changed the bushings out on it, but just curious on the bar.

Alignment would be a good logical step to check next. I will try to find spec’s for you on this, as I don’t have them on hand.

Regards,

Rob
KOR

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Klaudia September 17, 2013 at 8:29 am

I have a 1995 Ram 1500 4×4 and it has had the death wobble for about the past ten years. I’ve changed the steering stabilizer about 3 times since then and it seems to fix the problem for a while and then it starts again. Some of the stabilizers have actually been bent when I remove them. The death wobble is so horrible I only drive the truck when I have to and I stay off major highways. I will never buy a dodge again.
I’m going to have to give the entire front end a going over before I drive it again but I’m ready to just roll the damn thing off a cliff.

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Rob - KOR Customer Service September 23, 2013 at 11:13 am

Klaudia,

The steering stabilizer absorbs vibration in the steering system until it has worn out and is ineffective. Each time you get a new one, it is slowly being killed by whatever is really going wrong. Generally we would tell you to start with looking at the tires, alignment, track bar. On a nearly 20 year old vehicle, you may need tie rod ends or ball joints replaced as well.

Definitely give the front end a good look over. All is not lost on the truck, it just most likely needs some maintenance.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Regards,

Rob
KOR Staff

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Mike September 12, 2013 at 6:08 pm

Where is the steering stabilizer for the 1500 quad cab? All I see are mega cab models. I have a 2010 1500 quad cab wobbler and do not want to be tightening the components every 1000 miles. Also, does the steering box stabilizer come with full instructions?

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Tom August 29, 2013 at 6:14 pm

I have death wobble in my 96 ram 4×4 2500 with V10 how much do your recommended parts cost can i get a quote i want death wobble gone

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Randi July 22, 2013 at 11:59 am

Help PLEASE! We just purchased an 08 2500 diesel 4×4 and it wobbles! It’s supposed to be the “family” truck and my daily driver, however, if I can’t fix this there’s no way I am putting myself and kids in anymore danger by pulling the trailer with this thing. I have read this article several times and although I am by no means a gear head, I can figure it out if I had a diagram of the entire front end suspension to help me determine exactly where I should be looking for the play. Any ideas on where to find one? Also, this truck has aftermarket springs, I do not need any added lift, and all that, what can I change, or remove to help decrease the chances of wobble happening again? Bear in mind, it does not wobble all the time, just occasionally, and out of the blue. Thank you for any help you can give!

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Bradly July 20, 2013 at 10:58 am

I have a 2007 3500 cummins mega cab, single rear wheel. At about 130,000 I started getting the DW. I have replaced the tie-rod w/ the upgrade, track bar bushing, shocks, single front steering shock (I guess that’s what it is called) and just recently installed the steering stabilizer that goes over the steering gear. and I still have the death wobble. I bought this truck brand new, and I know all the little sounds and squeaks. I need so help on this please. Thanks for your time

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Rob - KOR Customer Service July 22, 2013 at 10:44 am

Bradley,

Any other modifications to the truck? Any lift on it? What size tires, how much wear, and how recently where they balanced?

Thanks,

Rob
KOR Staff

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Bradly July 23, 2013 at 6:20 pm

2″ coils upgrade to level up the front that have been on since about 15,000. 285/70 r 17. About 7,000 miles on them (big o all terain), balanced less than 1200 miles and rotated twice.

Thanks,

Bradly

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christie June 29, 2013 at 8:21 pm

Can anyone tell me how to fix death wobble on a 1990 ford bronco?

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Rob - KOR Customer Service July 1, 2013 at 1:22 am

Christie,

Each case of death wobble is going to be highly dependent on what the condition of your particular vehicle is in, although there are ‘usual suspects’. Parts you will want to inspect or have looked at would be the panhard bar (or track bar), tie rod ends, ball joints, and steering stabilizer. You will also want to make sure that on older vehicles shocks, and tires are in good order. Please read through the page here for lots of good info on what to look for; It may be for a different vehicle, but much of the principles are the same across solid axle vehicles.

Rob
KOR Staff

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Dan Chance May 27, 2013 at 7:03 pm

I’ve got an 07 dodge ram with a major death wobble. I have replaced everything up front, the 08 conversion, adjustable trackbar, adjustable lower control arms, track bar bracket, dual stabilizers, steering box bracket, etc. DW still occurs all the time, I’ve got 5.9* of caster and 37″ tires. This is becoming a nightmare, what do I do?

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Jeremy June 18, 2013 at 8:18 am

Mine has always been ball joints.

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Brock Connor April 16, 2013 at 6:36 pm

I have a 99 dodge ram 2500 4wd diesel. I have had this wobble problem for the past couple of months and I have replaced a lot of items but it keeps happening. I have a new sterring gearbox, steering box brace, new stabilizer, new tie rod end, drag link and crossover link is replaced. I have also aligned and got the tires balanced. I need some help and advice please! I hope you can help me solve this problem.

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Rob - KOR Customer Service May 5, 2013 at 11:39 pm

Brock,

I don’t see where the track bar is addressed in your list of items. You will definitely want to look into the track bar and its bushings to see if they are allowing movement of the track bar. An easy way to do this is to visually inspect the track bar ends and bushings while someone turns the steering wheel for you for several minutes. Take a good look at the track bar, and all sterring components for any slop or loose components.

Let us know if anything comes back suspicious.

Rob
KOR Staff

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problemsolver4886 March 31, 2013 at 10:08 pm

Relating to the death wobble that Kevin did a fine job in explaining the causes. I would like to share with the Dodge community another culprit that can cause the horrific death wobble. The front U- joints in the axle. I had an episode with the death wobble after my 99 Dodge Ram 3500 sat all winter with no use. It turns out that the factory U-joints siezed up a little and lost its symetric geometry going in to a curve at 55 – 60 miles an hour and it shook the steering knuckle violently.I thought I had driven thru an earthquake. It took a clean pair of shorts and 3 weeks to find the culprit.

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Rob - KOR Customer Service April 4, 2013 at 2:07 pm

Thanks for sharing this. The axle shafts and u-joints can be a serious cause of vibration as Kevin sorely experienced on his trip up to Alaska a while back: http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/north-to-alaska-expedition-trip/

Rob
KOR Staff

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Smess March 26, 2013 at 4:23 pm

That was the best and most comprehensive explanation of the Death Wobble that I have ever read, EXCELLENT job. I have 3 vehicles that have the potential for the death wobble. I have driven cross country in another and have owned a half a dozen other on top of that. I have never experienced the death wobble and in fact have owned a vehicle that the previous owned claims had the Death Wobble. All I can say is my vehicles are over maintenance and I personally double check and watch all work done to them at the shop and on my own lift. I think that preventative maintenance is paramount and if you drive them till they drop then I would invest in this kit. I have friends that have bought it and I can see from the product why it would cure the problem or prevent it.

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Mitchell D. Lynch February 24, 2013 at 8:22 am

I bought a cherry 2004 TJ Wrangler unlimited about 9 months ago from a family friend in Georgia with only 20,000 miles….I was moving to NY State and took it to my local Mechanic and put a new Rancho 2.5″ lift and undercoated the crap out of it. Even before I left Georgia I would sometimes hit a bump in the road and get the bouncing on the front right….I had heard of Death Wobble but this was my first time dealing with it myself….I thought it was a fluke and moved to NY State….As you know these roads are tore up due to the winters up here… and I was getting Death Wobble every time I drove my jeep……I started researching this and came along your website….I was doubting at first…Everything was basically new on my jeep…So I bought the TJ JEEP WRANGLER HARD-KOR DEATH WOBBLE PACKAGE FOR 1″ TO 3.5″ OF SUSPENSION LIFT and took it to a local tire shop in my area (They were not willing to take any liability and said they were not sure if it would work) I am proud to say 6 months later no Death Wobble and that 70 mph on NY and PA roads…Thanks for your help….Listen to these guys they know what the are talking about….Customer for Life
Mitchell

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Rob - KOR Customer Service February 28, 2013 at 5:51 pm

Mitchell,

Thanks again for taking the time to post this. It is great for customers to hear from other customers that are having success.

Sincerely,

Rob
KOR Staff

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Marks 4x4 Repair February 23, 2013 at 7:42 am

I’m concerned about stories I’ve heard about adjustable track bars on the dodges coming loose,any problems there? also do you have any pics of the install? how well does the heim join hold up,long term? looks like a DT track bar. Thanks

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Rob - KOR Customer Service February 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm

Mark,

Usually the adjustable track bars will require use of adequate thread locker (red stuff) on the hardware, or will provide locking nuts, as in our Jeep death wobble kits. Usually the issues with track bars working loose are due to worn out mounting points (wallowed out holes on the track bar brackets), improper torquing or thread lock usage, or not following the directions, and re-torquing the bolts after installation. These are not parts where you want to ‘set it and forget it” with factory hardware.

The Dodge track bars we offer are in fact DT Pro Fab units (you’ll notice their watermark on the product pictures). Any joints; be they heim joint, johnny joint, or poly bushings will need to be maintained and replaced. The service life will depend greatly on the use and abuse the rig goes through on a routine basis.

Rob
KOR Staff

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PJ Frazier February 11, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Thanks Rob. Yeah the dealer checked to make sure I had the tie rod replaced back in 2008 or 2009 maybe. I think is was just a Service Bulletin issue. Previous Owner had already taken it in and replaced they said. Thanks again for your help.

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PJ Frazier February 11, 2013 at 10:50 am

Is there a recall on this? If so, is there a website with the recall information?
I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel Quadcab Laramie 4×4.

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Rob - KOR Customer Service February 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

PJ,

As far as we are aware there is not a current recall regarding this issue. Chrysler pretty much has steered away from stating that death wobble is a design flaw in their products, and instead stated it is a maintenance issue.

You may want to check with your local dealership to be sure that there is not a current recall for your vehicle. The only thing I saw currently for the steering system is a faulty tie rod end. You can see all recall and service bulletin info by model at safecar.gov.

Rob
KOR Staff

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PJ Frazier February 11, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Thanks Rob. Yeah the dealer checked to make sure I had the tie rod replaced back in 2008 or 2009 maybe. I think is was just a Service Bulletin issue. Previous Owner had already taken it in and replaced they said. Thanks again for your help.

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